[reccom] Considerations

[Terry Sadler]

Rick,
  
I can't remember the cost of printing the last checklist but Milt might 
remember.  Frank Howe With DWR helped coordinate some of the 
governmental agencies.

Terry

Rick Fridell wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I thought I'd run through the issues addressed below by Terry as well:
>
> First: I don't have a strong opinion on this one either way, but I can't see
> a big downside in making the comments public, particularly after completion
> of the review process.
>
> Second: I'm fine with Milt's proposed change on the nomination process.
>
> Third: This still needs some discussion, however, Terry's proposal is a good
> standard and could easily be applied to both historic, reviewed, and future
> records.  With this process in place we could denote the "S" category
> species on the checklist, or include them at the end, etc.
>
> Fourth: Updating and reviewing the state checklist is rather
> straightforward, and perhaps a subgroup (Terry, Lu, Milt, and I?) could
> accomplish this?  As Terry points out, finding the funding to get it printed
> is another story. Terry, do you recall the total price of the printing?
> Depending on the cost, I can probably come up with funding.
>
> And regarding a yearly meeting, since there hasn't been one during the
> modern restart of the committee, it seems this 'bylaw requirement' is
> antiquated.  I wouldn't argue against the potential benefits of everyone
> getting together, but the fact that it has never happened means it's not
> likely or entirely necessary. I agree with Terry, that a meeting is
> justified, scheduling it in advance would enhance attendance.
>
> One final thought: another potential agenda item might be voting on the
> records?
>
>
> Yours,
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reccom-bounces at utahbirds.org
> [mailto:reccom-bounces at utahbirds.org]On Behalf Of Terry Sadler
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 3:13 PM
> To: reccom at utahbirds.org
> Subject: [reccom] Considerations
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Since I won't make it to the meeting I thought I would let you know my
> position on several issues that will be discussed.
>
> First, regarding Kris's proposal to make our comments public.  I believe
> the summary statement published annually by the Chair of the Records
> Committee should suffice.  It summarizes the general  consensus of the
> committee.  If we do decide to make individual comments available I
> recommend we start withrecords submitted  _after_ this proposal is or
> may be adopted.
>
> Second,I support the proposal to consider nomination before we contact
> the individual.  This was the case when I was nominated
>
> Third, The shifting standards for acceptance of records is an issue that
> needs addressing.  I propose we adopt a standard similar to California.
> If their is not an actual specimen collected for the species then the
> record is given a letter indicating how the record was accepted. The
> following was copied and pasted directly from California's checklist.
>
>   
>> P - At least one record supported by identifiable photograph (100 species)
>> V - At least one record supported by identifiable videotape (21 species)
>> T - At least one record supported by identifiable taped vocalization
>> (6 species)
>> S - Supported only by sight records (2 species)
>>
>>     
> Forth, Merrill Webb and I  (with a lot of input from Rick Fridell and
> Ron Ryel ) worked jointly on the last checklist.   Milt Moody provided
> tremendous assistance in giving us a computerized format to work on and
> making the final document.  The most difficult part of the whole process
> was lining up funding for the printing several thousand copies.  If you
> have a hard copy of the checklist list the monetary contributors are
> listed on the front page.   I ,personally, don't want to do that part of
> preparing a new checklist again.  I would like to help in other ways
> though. if others will take the lead.
>
> Regarding a yearly meeting,  maybe if we knew far in advance when the
> meeting was to be held possibly more of us could make the meeting.
>
> Best wishes to you all,
>
> Terry
>
>
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