[reccom] Proposed Bylaw Change

[Terry Sadler]

Hi Everyone,

What great response and discussion regarding the proposed term limit 
changes!   I certainly have had my eyes opened by Kris and David's 
comments.  I'm still feeling bad about losing Mark and Ron's input at 
least over the next year, but can see that it is healthy for the 
committee to have turn over in membership.

Thanks for the discussion.

Terry


Kristin Purdy wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I've been thinking about the proposed term limit changes again. 
> Changes that would affect present elections are starting to needle at 
> me and I wanted to share these thoughts.
>
> The three new people we're considering for committee membership are 
> willing to serve and likely believe they have a shot at being elected. 
> In fact, they do according to current bylaws because we must fill two 
> vacancies. I consider David's position filled, even if he failed to 
> pay me for my vote as I suggested he do.
>
> If we change horses mid-stream, I believe the three new candidates 
> have little chance of being elected, which they don't know. What 
> reason would we have not to vote for Mark and Ron, members who have 
> served the committee well and faithfully and have a great deal of 
> expertise?
>
> You might think my last statement is advocacy for changing term limits 
> now, but it's not. Observing bylaws presently in place does not close 
> the door to Mark's and Ron's future membership if they're willing to 
> serve again. In fact, even if we don't change the term limits for the 
> terms that began on Jan. 1, they can serve again later. I think 
> continuing their contributions to the committee is important in a 
> state that doesn't have a lot of depth in the candidate pool.
>
> Changing term limits now, however, means that we reduce dramatically 
> the chances of the three new candidates being elected. Changing the 
> rules after this year's election has started (and in fact, should be 
> complete) seems disingenuous to me.
>
> Kris
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kristin Purdy" 
> <kristinpurdy at comcast.net>
> To: "Utah Bird Records Committee" <reccom at utahbirds.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [reccom] Proposed Bylaw Change
>
>
>> Gents,
>>
>> I support the change to the bylaws, but am uncomfortable with a 
>> do-over affecting new terms on which we've already voted and that 
>> should have begun yesterday. I think we should consider changing the 
>> bylaws and put potential changes into play for next year.
>>
>> Kris
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Fridell" 
>> <rfridell at burgoyne.com>
>> To: "Utah Bird Records Committee" <reccom at utahbirds.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:50 PM
>> Subject: RE: [reccom] Proposed Bylaw Change
>>
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> Terry wrote "Is it too late to consider this bylaw change given 
>>> where we are
>>> in voting to replace them?"
>>>
>>> I'm very sorry I've been out of touch and did not address this 
>>> sooner. When
>>> I went to the voting page, I was sincerely surprised that neither 
>>> Ron or
>>> Mark were on the ballot. I honestly did not realize that the bylaws 
>>> were
>>> written to prevent them from remaining on the committee.
>>>
>>> If the committee supports the change, and shares Terry and my 
>>> concerns, I
>>> would also like to contact Mark and Ron and see if they are willing to
>>> continue to volunteer their time, and if possible put them on the 
>>> ballot and
>>> re-vote.
>>>
>>> What do others think?
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>>
>>> PS I also realized right after I hit send that letter d. under the 
>>> proposed
>>> changes should also be changed to read:
>>>
>>> d. THREE or FOUR Members will be up for reselection or replacement 
>>> each year
>>> (i.e. THREE in year on, FOUR in year two.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: reccom-bounces at utahbirds.org
>>> [mailto:reccom-bounces at utahbirds.org]On Behalf Of Terry Sadler
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:03 PM
>>> To: Utah Bird Records Committee
>>> Subject: [reccom] Proposed Bylaw Change
>>>
>>>
>>> I support the suggested bylaw change proposed by Rick.   I have been
>>> fretting about losing the caliber of review given by Mark and Ron.
>>> While the current candidates to fill their vacancies are knowledgeable,
>>> they lack the depth of experience that Mark and Ron have provided over
>>> the years they have served on the committee.
>>>
>>> Terry
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