[Birdtalk] Re: Rare Bird Alert

[Craig Fosdick]

Hi everyone-

Thanks for taking the time to address my question.  My question was posed
more as a rhetorical question to try and gently remind people that we do
indeed, as you all have pointed out, have a Rare Bird Alert (i.e., Bird
Net).  Alas, nuances are lost in email.  I posed the question because as Tim
has noted it seems like the same discussion about how, why, and when to use
Bird Talk vs. Bird Net comes up almost weekly.  That's an exaggeration, but
it sure seems like we have reviewed this topic several times in the past few
weeks.  No offense intended, Utah Birds is a great website, but when I first
moved to Utah two years ago, I found the difference between the two separate
lists very unclear.  And that's despite being a birder for ~24 years and
having a very clear understanding of the difference between what's common,
what's not-so-common but expected, and what a rarity is, and which of those
categories are appropriate for rare bird alerts and which are not.

Good birding, Craig.

Craig Fosdick
Logan, Utah.


On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Bill Fenimore <birderb at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Greetings:
>
> I managed the Rare Bird Report Hot Line for the Division of Wildlife
> Resources for several years.  However, as the internet has developed and
> progressed it has replaced a "hot line" telephone system.  The internet is
> the most rapid information dissemination system that we have now.  With the
> wireless telephone systems, you do not even need return from the field to
> send a report to Birdnet.
>
> Recently, Bob Walters and I discussed the hot line and I pointed out the
> view point expressed above.  Bob and I agreed that the hot line number is
> better replaced for birders wanting updated information by the Bird Net.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Fenimore
> 801-699-9330 Cellular
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Tim Avery <tanager at timaverybirding.com>
> *To:* Craig Fosdick <craig.fosdick at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* dlj11350 at yahoo.com ; birdtalk at utahbirds.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2009 2:32 PM
> *Subject:* RE: [Birdtalk] Re: Rare Bird Alert
>
> BIRDNET is used to email rare bird sightings, to a large list of people
> that are subscribed to the list.  The genearl idea is that it is a RARE BIRD
> ALERT.
>
> There is also the Utah Rare Bird Alert Hotline which is a phone in thing
> that Bill Fenimore is in charge of, or at least was last I heard.  Several
> years ago, Bill and I coordinated it so I updated a hard copy for BIRDTALK
> that went out every time a new bird came across birdtalk or the hotline.
> Unfortunately, it became less and less of a priority for me with other
> things going on.  An example of that can be seen here:
>
>
> http://secureserver.securesites.net/pipermail/birdtalk/2007-September/004690.html
>
> I don't think there is a need for a hard copy RBA anymore, as if you are
> subscribed to birdnet, you will recieve all rare bird reports.  Of course
> those on birdtalk and not birdnet will miss the rare birds on birdnet.  PArt
> of the whole argument to jsut combine the lists, and end all the
> un-neccesary confusion for some.
>
> Tim
> Salt Lake City, Utah
> tanager at timaverybirding.com
> http://www.timaverybirding.com
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [Birdtalk] Re: Rare Bird Alert
> From: Craig Fosdick <craig.fosdick at gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, May 05, 2009 2:23 pm
> To: birdtalk at utahbirds.org
>
> Don't we already have a Rare Bird Alert? My understanding is that BirdNet
> is Utah's RBA, no?
>
> Craig
>
> Craig Fosdick
> Logan, Utah.
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