[Birdtalk] Cooper's? One more shot

[Kristin Purdy]

Wait, wait! Is it too late to change my answer to Cooper's Hawk before I 
admit to viewing the end of the tail?!?

Jim, I agree with you about these discussions on bird ID--they're always 
enlightening.

Kris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jbloft" <jbloft at netzero.net>
To: "Larry tripp" <ltripp29 at hotmail.com>; "Bird Talk" 
<birdtalk at utahbirds.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Birdtalk] Cooper's? One more shot


> http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper_3.jpg
>
> One more shot.  The tail is more visible in this one.
>
> The tail did have a narrow white band on the tip.  Unfortunately it did 
> not show up against the background of white.
>
> Murphy's law:  Your prize specimen will always be backlit.
>
> Thank you all for your comments on this bird.  Discussions like this 
> always give one a few more things to look for when a problem bird arrives 
> on the scene.
>
> Interesting comments on the white spotting.  Apparently it is not 
> something of much worth in the ID of the two species.  Thanks again
>
> Jim
>
> http://donce.lofthouse.com/jamaica/nature/default.htm
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry tripp" <ltripp29 at hotmail.com>
> To: <birdtalk at utahbirds.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 10:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [Birdtalk] Cooper's?
>
>
>>
>>
>> The first thing I noticed on this bird is the size of the legs. They 
>> definitely look like a Cooper's. Sharpie's always look so thin when you 
>> can see them. The head contrast is a little hard to see because of the 
>> light and the head does look rounded like a Sharpie but both could be 
>> because of the angle of the pic and position of the bird. The eye appears 
>> closer to the beak (good for Cooper's') not centered in the head like a 
>> Sharpie. The tail could be helpful if we could see it better but the legs 
>> alone say Cooper's.
>>
>> Larry Tripp
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Jim & Beanie" <jbloft at netzero.net>
>>>To: "Bird Talk" <birdtalk at utahbirds.org>
>>>Subject: [Birdtalk] Cooper's?
>>>Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:01:56 -0700
>>>
>>>I thought this was a Coopers Hawk.  I  estimate the size,  17 inches 
>>>long. I know size is hard to get from a photo, but the iron he was 
>>>perched on gives me something to compare with.  I can measure that.
>>>The reason I bring this up is the spotting in the wing.   Have you seen 
>>>this before and does it also occur in the Sharp-shinned?
>>>
>>>I have seen this several times myself,  and also in photos others have 
>>>taken.  I have never seen this spotting portrayed in any of the bird 
>>>books I have.  What do you say?
>>>
>>>http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper.jpg
>>>http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper_0.jpg
>>>http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper_1.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>Paradise Utah
>>>
>>>
>>>http://donce.lofthouse.com/jamaica/nature/default.htm
>>
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