[Birdtalk] Cooper's? One more shot

[jbloft]

http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper_3.jpg

One more shot.  The tail is more visible in this one.

The tail did have a narrow white band on the tip.  Unfortunately it did not 
show up against the background of white.

Murphy's law:  Your prize specimen will always be backlit.

Thank you all for your comments on this bird.  Discussions like this always 
give one a few more things to look for when a problem bird arrives on the 
scene.

Interesting comments on the white spotting.  Apparently it is not something 
of much worth in the ID of the two species.  Thanks again

Jim

http://donce.lofthouse.com/jamaica/nature/default.htm
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry tripp" <ltripp29 at hotmail.com>
To: <birdtalk at utahbirds.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: [Birdtalk] Cooper's?


>
>
> The first thing I noticed on this bird is the size of the legs. They 
> definitely look like a Cooper's. Sharpie's always look so thin when you 
> can see them. The head contrast is a little hard to see because of the 
> light and the head does look rounded like a Sharpie but both could be 
> because of the angle of the pic and position of the bird. The eye appears 
> closer to the beak (good for Cooper's') not centered in the head like a 
> Sharpie. The tail could be helpful if we could see it better but the legs 
> alone say Cooper's.
>
> Larry Tripp
>
>
>
>>From: "Jim & Beanie" <jbloft at netzero.net>
>>To: "Bird Talk" <birdtalk at utahbirds.org>
>>Subject: [Birdtalk] Cooper's?
>>Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:01:56 -0700
>>
>>I thought this was a Coopers Hawk.  I  estimate the size,  17 inches long. 
>>I know size is hard to get from a photo, but the iron he was perched on 
>>gives me something to compare with.  I can measure that.
>>The reason I bring this up is the spotting in the wing.   Have you seen 
>>this before and does it also occur in the Sharp-shinned?
>>
>>I have seen this several times myself,  and also in photos others have 
>>taken.  I have never seen this spotting portrayed in any of the bird books 
>>I have.  What do you say?
>>
>>http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper.jpg
>>http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper_0.jpg
>>http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper_1.jpg
>>
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>Paradise Utah
>>
>>
>>http://donce.lofthouse.com/jamaica/nature/default.htm
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