[Birdtalk] Cooper's?

[sherry]

Just a couple thoughts.

Milt, since the birds fluff up their feathers in this cold weather 
(thereby giving the bad hair day look), could that be a reason the 
white spots would show up so well?  Kris -- maybe the photos in the 
bird books were taken in the South or in the summer; hence the 
well-groomed birds.  No cold weather to mess up a photograph opportunity!

Larry, you mentioned that the eyes are closer to the beak rather than 
centered in the head.  If the feathers on the head were fluffed up, 
particularly toward the back of the head, would that give the 
illusion of the eyes being more forward?  I am not doubting your ID 
(I have little to no experience in this, so I was glad to see your 
tips on the differences between the two), but I just wondered about 
this.  Is it something to take into consideration at this time of 
year when the temperatures are near freezing?

Sherry
Layton

At 10:53 AM 12/24/2006, Larry tripp wrote:


>The first thing I noticed on this bird is the size of the legs. They 
>definitely look like a Cooper's. Sharpie's always look so thin when 
>you can see them. The head contrast is a little hard to see because 
>of the light and the head does look rounded like a Sharpie but both 
>could be because of the angle of the pic and position of the bird. 
>The eye appears closer to the beak (good for Cooper's') not centered 
>in the head like a Sharpie. The tail could be helpful if we could 
>see it better but the legs alone say Cooper's.
>
>Larry Tripp
>
>
>
>>From: "Jim & Beanie" <jbloft at netzero.net>
>>To: "Bird Talk" <birdtalk at utahbirds.org>
>>Subject: [Birdtalk] Cooper's?
>>Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:01:56 -0700
>>
>>I thought this was a Coopers Hawk.  I  estimate the size,  17 inches long.
>>I know size is hard to get from a photo, but the iron he was 
>>perched on gives me something to compare with.
>>
>>The reason I bring this up is the spotting in the wing.   Have you 
>>seen this before and does it also occur in the Sharp-shinned?
>>
>>I have seen this several times myself,  and also in photos others 
>>have taken.  I have never seen this spotting portrayed in any of 
>>the bird books I have.  What do you say?
>>
>>http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper.jpg
>>http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper_0.jpg
>>http://loftsoft.net/jamaica/cooper_1.jpg
>>
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>Paradise Utah
>>
>>
>>http://donce.lofthouse.com/jamaica/nature/default.htm
>
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