[Birdnet] Red-shouldered Hawk... MAYBE NOT

[MarJean Muhlestein]

I have a question...It is my understanding that ALL Red-tailed hawks have a dark bar on leading edge of underwing that is present even on the juveniles. In the flight photo that Tim has, I only see streaking lines not a dark bar. Please inform me otherwise.
MarJean


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tim Avery<mailto:tanager at timaverybirding.com> 
  To: birdtalk at utahbirds.org<mailto:birdtalk at utahbirds.org> 
  Cc: birdnet at utahbirds.org<mailto:birdnet at utahbirds.org> 
  Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 1:49 PM
  Subject: [Birdnet] Red-shouldered Hawk... MAYBE NOT


  So it has been brought to my attention by an  exceptional birder, that the bird in Farmington may not be a Red-shouldered Hawk.  This person has viewed the pictures I took, and has also photographed the bird in question, and based off their experience, has ID'd the bird as a Red-tailed Hawk.

  That said, why don't some of the local experts weigh in with their thoughts.  Rick, Larry, Kris (you don;t have to since you already did ;) ), Mark, David, Colby?

  Also if anyone has GOOD pictures of the bird that would probably be helpful.  Mine are here, but were all in bad light:

  http://www.timaverybirding.com/photos/thumbnails.php?album=508<http://www.timaverybirding.com/photos/thumbnails.php?album=508>

  I personally thought the bird looked like a Red-shouldered based off the wing pattern, size and shape, but the person in question is no stranger to birds of prey and someone I trust very much so in this situation.  They don't want to get involved, but I thought I would pass on the concerns since so many have gone to see this bird.

  Cheers,

  Tim
  Salt Lake City, Utah
  tanager at timaverybirding.com<mailto:tanager at timaverybirding.com>
  http://www.timaverybirding.com<http://www.timaverybirding.com/>

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